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« on: February 22, 2014, 12:53:22 AM »

http://www.mcndirect.com/showsubject.aspx?id=52435

Does anyone know more about this? 
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 01:08:55 AM »

I know they already have Churches in Kuwait.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 01:10:40 AM »

The Saudi regime is stained not only with Christian blood, but the blood of its own people. I am unsure as to what has compelled them to allow this. I am still rather skeptical, TBH. If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction. I fear building this Church may cause Christians living in Saudi Arabia to suffer severe retribution. Lord, have mercy.

EDIT: As of yet, no Saudi regime source has confirmed this report:

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/454/0/-first-church-in-saudi-arabia-after-reports-of-momentous-accord-with-egypt-s-coptic-pope
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 01:20:03 AM »

The Saudi regime is stained not only with Christian blood, but the blood of its own people. I am unsure as to what has compelled them to allow this. I am still rather skeptical, TBH. If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction. I fear building this Church may cause Christians living in Saudi Arabia to suffer severe retribution. Lord, have mercy.

EDIT: As of yet, no Saudi regime source has confirmed this report:

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/454/0/-first-church-in-saudi-arabia-after-reports-of-momentous-accord-with-egypt-s-coptic-pope

In fact, Saudi has destroyed Shi'ite and even Sunni religious sites. I think they even destroyed the Prophet's Mosque.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 02:38:19 AM »

If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 03:22:20 AM »

This story is rubbish and will never happen in the short/medium-term.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 04:55:11 AM »

False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

http://www.copticworld.org/articles/3261/
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 05:26:11 AM »

False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

http://www.copticworld.org/articles/3261/
I knew it.

If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
In theory, you are correct. But many fundies condemn the Saudi regime as being "un-Islamic" and would probably be more than happy to wage jihad against a hypothetical Church, even if it is against the wishes of the government.

It's a new trend in the Islamic world. Rise up against your government and incite violence in your country and suddenly you're lionized as some sort of "hero" or "martyr." Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 12:02:16 PM »

False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

http://www.copticworld.org/articles/3261/
I knew it.

If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
In theory, you are correct. But many fundies condemn the Saudi regime as being "un-Islamic" and would probably be more than happy to wage jihad against a hypothetical Church, even if it is against the wishes of the government.

It's a new trend in the Islamic world. Rise up against your government and incite violence in your country and suddenly you're lionized as some sort of "hero" or "martyr." Roll Eyes

Yeah, and of course the Western media is quick to portray you as a 'democratic force for peace and stability' and then the American drones will come to your aid.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 04:10:52 PM »

Are there any other Islamic countries, apart from Saudi, that don't allow Churches being built?
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