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I know they already have Churches in Kuwait.
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The Saudi regime is stained not only with Christian blood, but the blood of its own people. I am unsure as to what has compelled them to allow this. I am still rather skeptical, TBH. If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction. I fear building this Church may cause Christians living in Saudi Arabia to suffer severe retribution. Lord, have mercy.

EDIT: As of yet, no Saudi regime source has confirmed this report:

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/454/0/-first-church-in-saudi-arabia-after-reports-of-momentous-accord-with-egypt-s-coptic-pope
« Last Edit: February 22, 2014, 01:17:12 AM by Severian »
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The Saudi regime is stained not only with Christian blood, but the blood of its own people. I am unsure as to what has compelled them to allow this. I am still rather skeptical, TBH. If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction. I fear building this Church may cause Christians living in Saudi Arabia to suffer severe retribution. Lord, have mercy.

EDIT: As of yet, no Saudi regime source has confirmed this report:

http://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/454/0/-first-church-in-saudi-arabia-after-reports-of-momentous-accord-with-egypt-s-coptic-pope

In fact, Saudi has destroyed Shi'ite and even Sunni religious sites. I think they even destroyed the Prophet's Mosque.
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If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
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This story is rubbish and will never happen in the short/medium-term.
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False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

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False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

http://www.copticworld.org/articles/3261/
I knew it.

If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
In theory, you are correct. But many fundies condemn the Saudi regime as being "un-Islamic" and would probably be more than happy to wage jihad against a hypothetical Church, even if it is against the wishes of the government.

It's a new trend in the Islamic world. Rise up against your government and incite violence in your country and suddenly you're lionized as some sort of "hero" or "martyr." ::)
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False Story, the Church and the Pope has even denied it.

http://www.copticworld.org/articles/3261/
I knew it.

If the Church is built, it will probably be destroyed by fundamentalists immediately upon construction.

That is actually a realistic possibility? I don't know anything about Saudis but I thought the king has fairly strict control over the country. Fundamentalists who publically oppose ruling of a king would probably face public beheading or something.
In theory, you are correct. But many fundies condemn the Saudi regime as being "un-Islamic" and would probably be more than happy to wage jihad against a hypothetical Church, even if it is against the wishes of the government.

It's a new trend in the Islamic world. Rise up against your government and incite violence in your country and suddenly you're lionized as some sort of "hero" or "martyr." ::)

Yeah, and of course the Western media is quick to portray you as a 'democratic force for peace and stability' and then the American drones will come to your aid.  ;)
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Are there any other Islamic countries, apart from Saudi, that don't allow Churches being built?
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