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OCL bashing thread
« on: May 18, 2013, 01:51:06 AM »
OCL is an organization that should not be patronized by Orthodox Christians.

List your reasons here.

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 04:24:15 AM »
Who?

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2013, 06:58:47 AM »

Who are they?
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2013, 07:02:20 AM »
I think it is an organization that works for a unified Orthodox Church in the US or something like that.
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 07:03:05 AM »
If I had to make a guess, these people

http://ocl.org

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2013, 07:05:10 AM »
I like them.
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 07:11:43 AM »
A cursory review does have anything which stands out to me as bad.

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 07:23:57 AM »
OCL is an organization that should not be patronized by Orthodox Christians.

List your reasons here.



What are your reasons, Maria?
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2013, 01:28:32 PM »
OCL is an organization that should not be patronized by Orthodox Christians.

List your reasons here.



What are your reasons, Maria?

I think this was meant for me LBK.

I stated elsewhere that I am not a fan of OCL.

My reason is that a small group of Greeks funded by OCL sued my Church (GOAA), my Archbishop and my Patriarch.

The response to this lawsuit from the clergy-laity assembly from my metropolis is here: http://www.goarch.org/news/goa.news1073/

And of course, if you love your Patriarch as much as I do, you are not going to be a fan of OCL.

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2013, 01:43:28 PM »
I must admit I don't know a lot about them. On the other thread, I signed the petition to help bring home the bishops, just because I am concerned about the case. I haven't otherwise taken part in OCL things, as far as I know.
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2013, 02:09:13 PM »
On the surface, they look unobjectionable, but the obsession they have with Orthodox unity for this country (yes, it's against the canons, but there are way worst things), involving the laity with in the governance of the church (restoring conciliarity, as they say repeatedly on their website, which is more about bringing the Orthodox Church into compliance with new attitudes towards things so they use conciliarity as a buzzword), and ecumenism with other denominations (that will reap benefits, I'm sure) really are NOT the most important issues or even remotely close to the issues Orthodox in this country need to focus on. 

I say, ignore them.  But it doesn't look like they have much support, if any, from the clergy or hierarchs, so they're pretty much irrelevant as it is.

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2013, 05:22:03 PM »
You don't like Orthodox Christian Laity?

I am not a priest, so I'm laity as is the vast majority of all parishes, so I will not be bashing them.  :P
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2013, 05:54:46 PM »
OCL is an organization that should not be patronized by Orthodox Christians.

List your reasons here.



What are your reasons, Maria?

I think this was meant for me LBK.

I stated elsewhere that I am not a fan of OCL.

My reason is that a small group of Greeks funded by OCL sued my Church (GOAA), my Archbishop and my Patriarch.

The response to this lawsuit from the clergy-laity assembly from my metropolis is here: http://www.goarch.org/news/goa.news1073/

And of course, if you love your Patriarch as much as I do, you are not going to be a fan of OCL.
you mean a patriarchate whose word is not good-revoking the charter and all.

As for Arbp. Demetrios (many years!), it is a shame he got caught in the middle.
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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2013, 06:29:18 PM »
I support the OCL...I have even given them money..they represent hope for American Orthodoxy with a vision of unity and an end to the uncanonical system of multiple jurisdictions...enjoy your ethnic clubs but I want my grandchildren to remain in the Church and not leave for the local mega-church ...

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Re: OCL bashing thread
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 08:05:26 PM »
OCL is an organization that should not be patronized by Orthodox Christians.

List your reasons here.



What are your reasons, Maria?

I think this was meant for me LBK.

I stated elsewhere that I am not a fan of OCL.

My reason is that a small group of Greeks funded by OCL sued my Church (GOAA), my Archbishop and my Patriarch.

The response to this lawsuit from the clergy-laity assembly from my metropolis is here: http://www.goarch.org/news/goa.news1073/

And of course, if you love your Patriarch as much as I do, you are not going to be a fan of OCL.
you mean a patriarchate whose word is not good-revoking the charter and all.

As for Arbp. Demetrios (many years!), it is a shame he got caught in the middle.

Yes, he has been a good Patriarch. I think he deserves some slack, you may think otherwise.

What did you think of his recent Huffington Post Blog submission (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ecumenical-patriarch-bartholomew/resurrection-the-gift-of-liberation-and-call-to-compassion_b_3209871.html)? I thought it was pretty good.