First of all. let me apologise for adding to the confusion in this thread. It is my fault. I sometimes type to quickly and do not see the inconsistencies of my post until someone is kind enough to point them out.
Mexico is with North America but Central America and the Caribbean are with South America, hence Met. Athenagoras being head of one and only attending the other. There are several bishops who will be invited to multiple meetings because of the expanse of their jurisdiction.
Is the Polish Autonomous Orthodox Church (PAOC) the same thing as the Church of Poland which is under the leadership of Met. Sawas?
*Autocephalous - the very same.
Are you certain about this Mike?
I thought the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church in Brazil was an uncanonical group with its origins in the Orthodox Church of Portugal.
It's origins do not matter if they ended up in the right place, under a canonical Orthodox omophorion.
Yes, you are right. I was not aware that the Polish Autocephalous Church has become canonical and I rejoice at the news. My mistake.
The Church in Portugal was made up mainly of converts, not people from Poland.
Besides, isn’t the Orthodox Church of Poland (in Poland) made up mostly of Ukrainians and Belarusians?
And if true, so?
The Ukrainians in Brazil belong to the UOC-USA which is under the EP.
Are you saying that the UOC-USA has parishes for the EP in Brazil, or are you saying that the Ukrainians in Brazil should belong to the UOC-USA under the EP? That the Faithful of the Polish Orthodox Church should be under the EP in the UOC-USA?
1. "It's origins do not matter if they ended up in the right place, under a canonical Orthodox omophorion."
Yes, you are right. I was not aware that the Polish Autocephalous Church has become canonical and I rejoice at the news. My mistake. Maybe you could help me by filling in the history I have missed?
2. The converts in Portugal & Brazil of the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church.
I can see that my comment was confusing. My aim was to show that the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church as it developed in Portugal had little to do with the recent immigration of Poles to Portugal since Poland joined the EU and Poles from Poland can now legally work in Portugal. It is ironic to me that this church keeps the designation "Polish" in Portugal and Brazil, when the majority of people who belong to it are not ethnic Poles.
3. Polish Orthodox Church in Poland is made up of Ukrainians & Belarusians.
You asked "So?" I have visited Poland & Orthodox parishes on the way to Ukraine so I can verify this.
My point was that when Orthodox from Poland leave Poland they join either the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Canada, or the USA because they are ethnically Ukrainian. For example, here in Canada, in the UOCC we have at least 10 priests who came in the 1980's from the Orthodox Church of Poland and are ethnically Ukrainian so they fitted into our church without any problems. You have to know the history, of how areas which had large Ukrainian populations remained part of Poland after WW2 and the history of the area in general with ethnic minorities living side by side. There are Polish minorities living in Ukraine after WW2 and they belong to the Roman Catholic Church in Ukraine that uses Polish as a liturgical language.
So I wonder if there is really a need for a Polish Orthodox Church outside of Poland because Orthodox who leave Poland join established Ukrainian churches or Belarusian churches any way.
4. No, I am saying that UOC-USA (EP) has parishes for the EP in Brazil and has had jurisdiction over these parishes historically. This involves a small number of members, because most of the Ukrainians are Uniates whose families came from Galicia. The Ukrainians immigrated to Brazil in the 1880's & 1890's. The people are poor, rural farmers and live in one consolidated area and have maintained the Ukrainian language and customs. For example, an estimated 75 percent of the population of the entire municipality (including rural areas) of Prudentуpolis (about 55,000 inhabitants) is of Ukrainian origin. So unlike the USA, the Ukrainians did not go up the social ladder and move around the country to be dispersed in various areas, but remained rural farmers in one colony as it is called in Brazil. We are always taking up collections for poor Ukrainians in Brazil in Canada where I live.
Recently, a research team from the University of Alberta conducted an extensive study of this group and the retention of language and customs. http://www.ualberta.ca/CIUS/announce/media/Media%202009/2009-06-29_Ukrainian%20L\ife%20in%20Brazil%20(eng).pdf
The priests are educated in the the UOC seminary in Boundbrook, USA.
No I don't think the Polish Autocephalous Church should be part of the UOC-USA (EP) parishes in Brazil. It would never enter my mind to suggest this.
And lastly, I hope with this answer I have not added to the confusion.