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Kremlin Acquires Plot Alongside Eiffel Tower 09 February 2010 By Irina Filatova http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/kremlin-acquires-plot-alongside-eiffel-tower/399294.htmlThe Kremlin has acquired a piece of land in downtown Paris, across from the Eiffel Tower, where it plans to build a church and a cultural center, a Kremlin official said Monday. France’s Budget Ministry in October announced a tender for the plot of land, which drew the interest of many French and foreign investors. But the highest and most interesting bid came from Russia, France’s Budget Ministry said in a statement on its web site. The presidential property department, which took part in the tender on behalf of the government, plans to build a Russian cultural center and an orthodox church on the site it has bought, said Viktor Khrekov, a spokesman for the department. “This deal is a symbol of partnership between Russia and France, a symbol of Russia’s presence in France,” he told The Moscow Times. Both Khrekov and the Budget Ministry declined to specify the value of the deal, saying it was a commercial secret under the terms of the contest. “We just can tell you that we got the best offer,” spokespeople for the ministry said in an e-mailed statement. The bidding price wasn’t the only issue at stake, however, Khrekov said. The Budget Ministry took into account the construction projects being proposed by the applicants. Russia beat out two other rivals for the land — Canada and Saudi Arabia — which proposed building an embassy and a cultural center, respectively, he said. The site includes a group of buildings that formerly belonged to the meteorological office of France, located in an elite district of Paris between the Eiffel Tower and Les Invalides, in the city’s 7th arrondissement. The plot will also be located near Pont Alexandre III, a bridge built in 1896 in honor of Russian-French relations. The bridge was named after the tsar who reached an alliance with the French Third Republic that lasted from 1892 until the Russian revolution. Some of the buildings on the plot will be demolished, while others will be integrated with the construction design, Khrekov said. A new tender will be announced to find a developer for the project, and applications by French developers would be considered, he said. A spokesman for the Patriarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church declined to comment on Monday. “If such a project goes through, it will be an even more significant event than the construction of Pont Alexandre III,” Newsweek quoted a source close to the discussions as saying. The magazine quoted another source in the Kremlin as saying that if Russia won the tender, the government would give free use of the property to the Russian Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:21:20 AM » |
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There are several really nice RO churches in Paris. The MP already has a parish there, Three Saints which has some very nice Ikon's.
Does anyone know if they have a web site or if there is a site on line with pictures of the church interior?
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 01:40:29 AM » |
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There are several really nice RO churches in Paris. The MP already has a parish there, Three Saints which has some very nice Ikon's.
Does anyone know if they have a web site or if there is a site on line with pictures of the church interior?
This is the ikonostas from Three Hierarchs Russian church in Paris. One of the nicest small ikonostases I've seen. The icons are the work of Leonid Ouspensky and you can see how he influenced his equally famous pupil Fr Gregory Kroug of Paris. Ouspensky is more disciplined though. Aidan Hart in the UK used to paint in this style, but has since developed his own unique style. http://aidanharticons.com/ If you look at his icon of St. Cormac, you'll see what I mean. 
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 01:55:57 AM » |
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The icons are the work of Leonid Ouspensky and you can see how he influenced his equally famous pupil Fr Gregory Kroug of Paris. Ouspensky is more disciplined though. Amazing work. Very classy and understated. It reminds me of the iconography of the Old Believers. Aidan Hart in the UK used to paint in this style, but has since developed his own unique style. http://aidanharticons.com/ If you look at his icon of St. Cormac, you'll see what I mean. Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website: 
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 02:07:32 AM » |
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Thank you Father!
I have been looking for years for a pic of the inside of this church. Very beautiful.
Paris is certainly blessed to have such nice RO parishes as this and the St Alexander Nevsky cathedral.
I have a book published in Russian by the Paris RO/EP Exarchate which has photos from some of their European parishes. I wish that the MP would publish a similar work for their European Exarchate in the near future.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 02:09:14 AM » |
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Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website:
No, he was baptized into the Serbian Orthodox Church in NZ by me a gazillion years ago, probably about 1980. Since then he had about 12 years or more as a monk in the UK, living as a hermit more or less, in Shropshire in a hermitage which he built dedicated to Saint Cuthbert, under the spiritual direction of Fr Sophrony of Tolleshunt Knight and Bp Kallistos. The hermitage still exists but is now under the Romanian bishop.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 07:41:08 AM » |
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Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website:  It is not an icon of Divine Mercy. There aren't any laser beams coming from Jesus. IMO it looks quite typical.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 09:52:25 AM » |
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Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website:  It is not an icon of Divine Mercy. There aren't any laser beams coming from Jesus. IMO it looks quite typical. Yes, to be Faustina's "Divine Mercy," the beams have to be white on one side and red on the other.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 02:07:14 PM » |
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Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website:  It is not an icon of Divine Mercy. There aren't any laser beams coming from Jesus. IMO it looks quite typical. Yes, to be Faustina's "Divine Mercy," the beams have to be white on one side and red on the other. It at least appears to be inspired by the Divine Mercy Image, having the phrase "Jesus I trust in you" along with naming the icon "The merciful Jesus".
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 02:25:06 PM » |
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Is this guy Roman Catholic or something? I ask because he has an "icon" of the Divine Mercy on his website:  It is not an icon of Divine Mercy. There aren't any laser beams coming from Jesus. IMO it looks quite typical. Yes, to be Faustina's "Divine Mercy," the beams have to be white on one side and red on the other. It at least appears to be inspired by the Divine Mercy Image, having the phrase "Jesus I trust in you" along with naming the icon "The merciful Jesus". I've only seen icons of the Divine Mercy with the quote, "Jesus, I trust in you". and if you look closely there are red rays, tho they are from behind Jesus. This is too close to be done by chance. Not that I don't like the icon, far from it I really think its beautiful.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 03:58:30 PM » |
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Aidan Hart has some other questionable icons, like Francis of Assisi. I assume he's doing these for Catholic customers.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 04:14:41 PM » |
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Aidan Hart has some other questionable icons, like Francis of Assisi. I assume he's doing these for Catholic customers.
Really? Where can I find his icons?
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 04:16:21 PM » |
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Aidan Hart has some other questionable icons, like Francis of Assisi. I assume he's doing these for Catholic customers.
Really? Where can I find his icons? Here you go: http://aidanharticons.com/western_orthodox_saints_2.html
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 04:43:24 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2010, 04:45:12 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2010, 04:47:59 PM » |
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Based on the article, and on a cursory examination of Paris via Google Maps, I don't know if "opposite Eiffel Tower" is exactly what is going on; ISTM "near Eiffel Tower" would be more accurate. Of course, without a specific address, I can't be sure.
What a great opportunity, though - in a district rich with historical & notable sites, to have an Orthodox Church.
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 04:57:34 PM » |
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How many Russians are there in Paris?
Has the old White Emigre community still survived to this day?
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2010, 06:18:43 PM » |
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Thank you; I was wondering what they meant by "across" from the Eiffel Tower, since it's on the edge of the river.
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