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Re: Female Altar Servers??
« Reply #450 on: August 11, 2017, 11:52:25 AM »
I have a question on the consequences: Exactly what would it mean if female altar servers were permitted?
What would it mean for the liturgy? What harm would it effectively do?
Mind I do not want to advocate female priesthood or anything, just curios what you think what kind of problems it would cause in real life.

But if you read the posts of the thread and look at the pictures posted there, you will see that female altar servers actually exist.
The best way is to ask the parishes that have female altar servers ;)

Really? I was under the impression that apart from very few exceptions (maybe some women´s monasteries), the altar was generally off limits for women.
Or were you referring to the picture with the Matushka, so to say a joke?

No, I was serious. There are female servers in some Antiochian parishes, including cathedrals. I think i remember seeing one in a Polish parish. And even beyond being an altar server, women do some their stuff, like carrying churhc ensing during processions, holding candles etc. Such things happen even in Russian parishes.

Ah ok, I guess I had a wrong conception of the word "altar server". I was assuming that, among other things, it entitled the person in question to access the other side of the iconostasis.
You know, because "altar server" contains the word "altar". Now, holding candles indeed does not seem to pose a problem.
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Re: Female Altar Servers??
« Reply #451 on: August 11, 2017, 11:54:14 AM »
I have a question on the consequences: Exactly what would it mean if female altar servers were permitted?
What would it mean for the liturgy? What harm would it effectively do?
Mind I do not want to advocate female priesthood or anything, just curios what you think what kind of problems it would cause in real life.

Considering St. Gregory N.'s sainted mother died clinging to the altar, perhaps the "problem" would be more great women saints for the Church.
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Re: Female Altar Servers??
« Reply #452 on: August 11, 2017, 12:10:43 PM »
I have a question on the consequences: Exactly what would it mean if female altar servers were permitted?
What would it mean for the liturgy? What harm would it effectively do?
Mind I do not want to advocate female priesthood or anything, just curios what you think what kind of problems it would cause in real life.

Considering St. Gregory N.'s sainted mother died clinging to the altar, perhaps the "problem" would be more great women saints for the Church.

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Re: Female Altar Servers??
« Reply #453 on: August 11, 2017, 12:34:30 PM »

I love that!

Afterall, they were crowned together in matrimony, and I'm certain she supported him and encouraged him, and is a vital part of his ministry, and success.
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I would approve of a service to bless and consecrate Matushkas/Presbyteras, which could follow or be  inserted into the ordinarion liturgy of their husband.

Would be a pleasant bit of farce, if you ask me. It's not as tho these women are being chosen on their own merits. Therefore, it buries the question of why women's "ordainable" merits are not in the person of the woman herself acceptable offerings to the Church. As I alluded to before, there are religious movements in which it is held that the wife is saved by her husband's spiritual merits as long as she is faithful (Christian fundamentalist, altho Hindu fundamentalism teaches the same thing most explicitly). This is not orthodox, and any ritual that bears any similar message (in this case, that the ordination of a man is what can devolve to a woman) I very much doubt would be orthodox either.

Good point.
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